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== David and RMS (draft) 0187.jpg 0188.wav ==
 RMS:: Hi, I'm Richard Stallman, what's your name?
 David:: I'm David.
 RMS:: What do you do, David?
 David:: I'm a software engineer.
 RMS:: So, have you read the GPL 3?
 David:: No.
 RMS:: You should, the GPL 3 is my personal vision you know.
 David:: Really? Cool.
 RMS:: Yes, that's right, I'm particularly fond of the parts I had Eben write.
 David:: Cool.
 RMS:: So, if you haven't read GPL 3, have you at least read the comments?
 David:: I haven't read them
 RMS:: Our comments system is Web 2.0 compatible, you know.
 David:: Ok.
 RMS:: So, tell me about what you do.
 David:: I do simulation systems for surgeries.
 RMS:: On what operating system?
 David:: Under Linux of course.
 RMS:: Under Linux?
 David:: Yes.
 RMS:: I think you'll find that's pronounced GNU/Linux.
 David:: GNU/Linux *laughs*.
 RMS:: Personally, I think everyone should consider switching to an alternative kernel, perhaps the GNU/Hurd, or perhaps something I haven't yet written (??).
 David:: What's that?
 RMS:: I'm going to call it StallOS.
 David:: Where do I find it?
 RMS:: GNU/StallOS ...
 *disintegrates into chaos*

This page and subpages contains transcripts of interviews conducted using the RMS and Miguel heads-on-a-stick.

Andrew and Miguel (draft) 0198.jpg 0199.wav

Miguel
Hi, who are you?
Andrew
Andrew.
Miguel
Andrew, hi. Do you know who I am?
Andrew
Miguel de Icaza
Miguel
Wow, nice to know. Have you heard of Mono?
Andrew
I have.
Miguel
You have. Do you use Mono?
Andrew
Only when a program that somebody else wrote insists on using Mono
Miguel
Ohhh. You should you Mono for everything.
Andrew
No, I only use it for preparing panaroma images.
Miguel
Ahh. You see, Mono is the greatest language ever invented.
Andrew
Ahh! Well, I must have to find something else that will be better then.
Miguel
No no, because you see we're going to have a Mono-poly, it's all going to be Mono.
Andrew
The one true Mono.
Miguel
Yes, very much so.
Andrew
Right. Couldn't it be a Duo?
Miguel
No no, I think Intel's trademarked that now.
Andrew
Trio?
Miguel
No, that's Sony isn't it? No, Handspring.
Andrew
Quattro.
Miguel
Audi.
Andrew
Ah, and I don't know Italian for five, or Spanish.
Miguel
Yes.
Andrew
I can see the problem.
Miguel
Yes, it's very serious, everyone should just use Mono.
Andrew
I've run out now.
Miguel
Yeah, so have I.

David and RMS (draft) 0187.jpg 0188.wav

RMS
Hi, I'm Richard Stallman, what's your name?
David
I'm David.
RMS
What do you do, David?
David
I'm a software engineer.
RMS
So, have you read the GPL 3?
David
No.
RMS
You should, the GPL 3 is my personal vision you know.
David
Really? Cool.
RMS
Yes, that's right, I'm particularly fond of the parts I had Eben write.
David
Cool.
RMS
So, if you haven't read GPL 3, have you at least read the comments?
David
I haven't read them
RMS
Our comments system is Web 2.0 compatible, you know.
David
Ok.
RMS
So, tell me about what you do.
David
I do simulation systems for surgeries.
RMS
On what operating system?
David
Under Linux of course.
RMS
Under Linux?
David
Yes.
RMS
I think you'll find that's pronounced GNU/Linux.
David
GNU/Linux *laughs*.
RMS
Personally, I think everyone should consider switching to an alternative kernel, perhaps the GNU/Hurd, or perhaps something I haven't yet written (??).
David
What's that?
RMS
I'm going to call it StallOS.
David
Where do I find it?
RMS
GNU/StallOS ...
  • disintegrates into chaos*
  • Groggy and RMS (draft) 0210.jpg 0211.wav

    Groggy
    Look Richard, I've told you a bloody million times this GPL crap is no good at all, it is a complete waste of time. You're holding the whole world to ransom with your crap, I mean, we want a real free license, like the BSD license.
    RMS
    Haven't you read GPL 3, it's compatible with BSD now.
    Groggy
    GPL 3 is even more bloody legislation than before, we want a short licence, you keep telling us that it's shorter now, ??? it's 350kb long, how the hell can any bloody idiot read that, it's like a EULA.
    RMS
    But the GPL 3 is my personal vision, as transcribed by Eben. I thought I'd go for stone tablets, but that's been done and I wanted to stay with the times, so it's got a Web 2.0 and AJAX system now.
    Groggy
    Look, Richard, you're 53 years old, it's time you started wearing glasses, no wonder your vision's flawed.
    RMS
    Alright, alright, personal (??) things aside, as one beard wearer to another, what are your tips for beard maintenance?
    Groggy
    Beard maintenance? Well, I've always found that shaving it off and selling it on eBay has been rather profitable, and so like yours, mine varies in length. Last time I met you, mine was long, yours was short, now yours is long, mine's short. These are the fluctuations of life, what can you say.
    RMS
    Do you have any tips on keeping food out of your beard? I tend to have chicken wings hanging off, it's a bit odd.
    Groggy
    Why do you want to keep it out? Wait until dinner?? time when you can boil your beard in water and have a soup.
    RMS
    ....
    Groggy
    *laughs* You never were a good man with words, were you Richard?
    RMS
    No. So why are you at linux.conf.au if you're a BSD hacker?
    Groggy
    I'm trying to subvert the whole movement and show them the one true way.
    RMS
    Into GNU/Hurd, yes, the one true way.
    Groggy
    Ahhh, one of these days you will understand.

    Miguel and Aaron Seigo (draft) 0192.jpg 0194.wav

    Miguel
    Hi, I'm Miguel de Icaza, who are you?
    Aaron
    I'm Aaron Seigo, of the KDE Project.
    Miguel
    KDE Project eh? I heard you guys are switching to Mono.
    Aaron
    Ah, no, not really.
    Miguel
    Really? Have you considered it?
    Aaron
    Yes, in fact, we actually have C# binding for Cute.
    Miguel
    I hear Mono is the ultimate platform to do all your rapid application development.
    Aaron
    Yes, listening to yourself is a great way to hear these things.
    Miguel
    I've been telling myself for months, Mono is the only way.
    Aaron
    Alright.
    Miguel
    It's true. And after that, then comes Glib, and then Gtk, and then, well, you may as well just develop ?? then.
    Aaron
    You didn't have enough of one monopoly, you had to make another here? I believe there's options in the world, you know, one thing(??) of open source is you're free to make your decisions, and if they turn out to be mistakes, then someone else who made different decisions will hopefully be successful. So if you're right, bully, and if you're not, ah well, one more way not to make a lightbulb.
    Miguel
    Certainly freedom's important, but I've coined myself a new phrase. I like the term "Freedom as in Mono".
    Aaron
    *laughs* Isn't that a kissing disease? Like, I caught that once from this girl right, like I didn't really know her, and she stuck her toungue down my throat and the next thing I know I've felt like boy, I've got no motivation.
    Miguel
    No, that's date rape.
    Aaron
    Oh. Similar. I thought it was Mono?
    Miguel
    I'd better let you get to your talk then.
    Aaron
    It was brilliant to meet you Miguel. I've looked forward to this all my life. I thought you'd be a bit more animated, you seem to have like one expression, but it works for you! It's good - don't let anybody tell you you've gotta change that. I'll give you a hug, aww, I feel the love tonight. Good luck!
    Miguel
    Cya.

    Stewart and RMS (draft) 0142.jpg 0143.wav

    RMS
    Hi, who are you?
    Stewart
    I'm Stewart.
    RMS
    Hi Stewart, do you know who I am?
    Stewart
    Yes ...
    RMS
    Can you say my name, Stewart?
    Stewart
    RMS
    RMS
    That's Richard Matthew Stallman to you.
    Stewart
    Ahh.
    RMS
    So, Free Software or Open Source?
    Stewart
    Hmmm.... I don't care.
    RMS
    You know it's an important choice about freedom.
    Stewart
    Yep.
    RMS
    So, you work for MySQL, that's correct?
    Stewart
    Yes.
    RMS
    When are you going to make MySQL truly free?
    Stewart
    It is truly free.
    RMS
    Truly free.
    Stewart
    It is truly free.
    RMS
    Have you read GPL 3 yet?
    Stewart
    Yes.
    RMS
    What do you think?
    Stewart
    It's interesting ... we're going to have some interesting times with

    that and customers and making sure people don't get scared and run or fork the code, but hopefully it'll work.

    RMS
    I haven't read it, I just got Eben to write it for me.
    Stewart
    *laughs*
    RMS
    I said, write something down, we'll see what comes out. I'm sure it'll be good, good as GPL 2. I was thinking perhaps of remerging ?? it to the GNU Free Documentation Licence.
  • someone else says something, disintegrates*