Differences between revisions 8 and 9
Revision 8 as of 2006-02-18 04:25:57
Size: 12306
Comment: pia and rms
Revision 9 as of 2009-12-23 14:50:24
Size: 12306
Editor: localhost
Comment: converted to 1.6 markup
No differences found!

This page contains transcripts of interviews conducted using the RMS and Miguel heads-on-a-stick.

Andrew and Miguel (draft) 0198.jpg 0199.wav

Miguel
Hi, who are you?
Andrew
Andrew.
Miguel
Andrew, hi. Do you know who I am?
Andrew
Miguel de Icaza
Miguel
Wow, nice to know. Have you heard of Mono?
Andrew
I have.
Miguel
You have. Do you use Mono?
Andrew
Only when a program that somebody else wrote insists on using Mono
Miguel
Ohhh. You should you Mono for everything.
Andrew
No, I only use it for preparing panaroma images.
Miguel
Ahh. You see, Mono is the greatest language ever invented.
Andrew
Ahh! Well, I must have to find something else that will be better then.
Miguel
No no, because you see we're going to have a Mono-poly, it's all going to be Mono.
Andrew
The one true Mono.
Miguel
Yes, very much so.
Andrew
Right. Couldn't it be a Duo?
Miguel
No no, I think Intel's trademarked that now.
Andrew
Trio?
Miguel
No, that's Sony isn't it? No, Handspring.
Andrew
Quattro.
Miguel
Audi.
Andrew
Ah, and I don't know Italian for five, or Spanish.
Miguel
Yes.
Andrew
I can see the problem.
Miguel
Yes, it's very serious, everyone should just use Mono.
Andrew
I've run out now.
Miguel
Yeah, so have I.

David and RMS (draft) 0187.jpg 0188.wav

RMS
Hi, I'm Richard Stallman, what's your name?
David
I'm David.
RMS
What do you do, David?
David
I'm a software engineer.
RMS
So, have you read the GPL 3?
David
No.
RMS
You should, the GPL 3 is my personal vision you know.
David
Really? Cool.
RMS
Yes, that's right, I'm particularly fond of the parts I had Eben write.
David
Cool.
RMS
So, if you haven't read GPL 3, have you at least read the comments?
David
I haven't read them
RMS
Our comments system is Web 2.0 compatible, you know.
David
Ok.
RMS
So, tell me about what you do.
David
I do simulation systems for surgeries.
RMS
On what operating system?
David
Under Linux of course.
RMS
Under Linux?
David
Yes.
RMS
I think you'll find that's pronounced GNU/Linux.
David
GNU/Linux *laughs*.
RMS
Personally, I think everyone should consider switching to an alternative kernel, perhaps the GNU/Hurd, or perhaps something I haven't yet written (??).
David
What's that?
RMS
I'm going to call it StallOS.
David
Where do I find it?
RMS
GNU/StallOS ...
  • disintegrates into chaos*
  • Groggy and RMS (draft) 0210.jpg 0211.wav

    Groggy
    Look Richard, I've told you a bloody million times this GPL crap is no good at all, it is a complete waste of time. You're holding the whole world to ransom with your crap, I mean, we want a real free license, like the BSD license.
    RMS
    Haven't you read GPL 3, it's compatible with BSD now.
    Groggy
    GPL 3 is even more bloody legislation than before, we want a short licence, you keep telling us that it's shorter now, ??? it's 350kb long, how the hell can any bloody idiot read that, it's like a EULA.
    RMS
    But the GPL 3 is my personal vision, as transcribed by Eben. I thought I'd go for stone tablets, but that's been done and I wanted to stay with the times, so it's got a Web 2.0 and AJAX system now.
    Groggy
    Look, Richard, you're 53 years old, it's time you started wearing glasses, no wonder your vision's flawed.
    RMS
    Alright, alright, personal (??) things aside, as one beard wearer to another, what are your tips for beard maintenance?
    Groggy
    Beard maintenance? Well, I've always found that shaving it off and selling it on eBay has been rather profitable, and so like yours, mine varies in length. Last time I met you, mine was long, yours was short, now yours is long, mine's short. These are the fluctuations of life, what can you say.
    RMS
    Do you have any tips on keeping food out of your beard? I tend to have chicken wings hanging off, it's a bit odd.
    Groggy
    Why do you want to keep it out? Wait until dinner?? time when you can boil your beard in water and have a soup.
    RMS
    ....
    Groggy
    *laughs* You never were a good man with words, were you Richard?
    RMS
    No. So why are you at linux.conf.au if you're a BSD hacker?
    Groggy
    I'm trying to subvert the whole movement and show them the one true way.
    RMS
    Into GNU/Hurd, yes, the one true way.
    Groggy
    Ahhh, one of these days you will understand.

    Miguel and Aaron Seigo (draft) 0192.jpg 0194.wav

    Miguel
    Hi, I'm Miguel de Icaza, who are you?
    Aaron
    I'm Aaron Seigo, of the KDE Project.
    Miguel
    KDE Project eh? I heard you guys are switching to Mono.
    Aaron
    Ah, no, not really.
    Miguel
    Really? Have you considered it?
    Aaron
    Yes, in fact, we actually have C# binding for Cute.
    Miguel
    I hear Mono is the ultimate platform to do all your rapid application development.
    Aaron
    Yes, listening to yourself is a great way to hear these things.
    Miguel
    I've been telling myself for months, Mono is the only way.
    Aaron
    Alright.
    Miguel
    It's true. And after that, then comes Glib, and then Gtk, and then, well, you may as well just develop ?? then.
    Aaron
    You didn't have enough of one monopoly, you had to make another here? I believe there's options in the world, you know, one thing(??) of open source is you're free to make your decisions, and if they turn out to be mistakes, then someone else who made different decisions will hopefully be successful. So if you're right, bully, and if you're not, ah well, one more way not to make a lightbulb.
    Miguel
    Certainly freedom's important, but I've coined myself a new phrase. I like the term "Freedom as in Mono".
    Aaron
    *laughs* Isn't that a kissing disease? Like, I caught that once from this girl right, like I didn't really know her, and she stuck her toungue down my throat and the next thing I know I've felt like boy, I've got no motivation.
    Miguel
    No, that's date rape.
    Aaron
    Oh. Similar. I thought it was Mono?
    Miguel
    I'd better let you get to your talk then.
    Aaron
    It was brilliant to meet you Miguel. I've looked forward to this all my life. I thought you'd be a bit more animated, you seem to have like one expression, but it works for you! It's good - don't let anybody tell you you've gotta change that. I'll give you a hug, aww, I feel the love tonight. Good luck!
    Miguel
    Cya.

    Stewart and RMS (draft) 0142.jpg 0143.wav

    RMS
    Hi, who are you?
    Stewart
    I'm Stewart.
    RMS
    Hi Stewart, do you know who I am?
    Stewart
    Yes ...
    RMS
    Can you say my name, Stewart?
    Stewart
    RMS
    RMS
    That's Richard Matthew Stallman to you.
    Stewart
    Ahh.
    RMS
    So, Free Software or Open Source?
    Stewart
    Hmmm.... I don't care.
    RMS
    You know it's an important choice about freedom.
    Stewart
    Yep.
    RMS
    So, you work for MySQL, that's correct?
    Stewart
    Yes.
    RMS
    When are you going to make MySQL truly free?
    Stewart
    It is truly free.
    RMS
    Truly free.
    Stewart
    It is truly free.
    RMS
    Have you read GPL 3 yet?
    Stewart
    Yes.
    RMS
    What do you think?
    Stewart
    It's interesting ... we're going to have some interesting times with

    that and customers and making sure people don't get scared and run or fork the code, but hopefully it'll work.

    RMS
    I haven't read it, I just got Eben to write it for me.
    Stewart
    *laughs*
    RMS
    I said, write something down, we'll see what comes out. I'm sure it'll be good, good as GPL 2. I was thinking perhaps of remerging ?? it to the GNU Free Documentation Licence.
  • someone else says something, disintegrates*
  • Trent and Miguel (draft) 0202.jpg 0207.wav

    Miguel
    Hi, who are you?
    Trent
    I'm Trent.
    Miguel
    So, do you know who I am?
    Trent
    No.
    Miguel
    I'm Miguel de Icaza.
    Trent
    Oh really?
    Miguel
    So what do you do?
    Trent
    Me? What do I do? Not much.
    Miguel
    Really? I thought you had some sort of multicast DNS thing going on.
    Trent
    Well, yes, I do.
    Miguel
    Is it written in Mono?
    Trent
    No.
    Miguel
    Why not? Does it at least have Mono bindings?
    Trent
    Yes, it does, in fact.
    Miguel
    It does have Mono bindings, well done.
    Trent
    It does, except you won't put them on the website, because you are a Bonjour weenie. That's true by the way.
    Miguel
    No need to be offensive. I think with Bonjour, Apple's done a good job there. I mean, we don't need so many implementations, it confuses things.
    Trent
    But Bonjour's shit.
    Miguel
    I guess it is, but it's not really Mono, so you know, everything should be written in Mono you know?
    Trent
    It doesn't have Mono bindings, we had to write them up ??
    Miguel
    So you do agree that Mono is something good.
    Trent
    Something good, yes.
    Miguel
    Yeah. So everything should be Mono, there should be a Mono-poly.
    Trent
    Mono-poly?
    Miguel
    Yes, everything Mono.
    Trent
    So why don't you go write Monopoly in Mono?
    Miguel
    You know, I think I will.
    Trent
    Are you going to make your business a monopoly, just like Microsoft?
    Miguel
    Well, we're taking after Microsoft, you see that's the Mono way. Microsoft made C#, we made Mono. We like Microsoft a lot, you know.
    Trent
    So once you get Microsoft, then what? Will you rule the world?
    Miguel
    Yes, then we'll rule the world. And everyone shall use Mono!
    Trent
    Ok.
    Miguel
    The Mono-poly shall rule the world.
    Trent
    So tell me, how did you write the first C# compiler?
    Miguel
    *thick spanish accent* I went out back and I sort of sat down, and then I took a few bits of crack, and Mono came to me in a flash of brilliance, and I coded like a Ximian crackmonkey.
    Trent
    So what language did you write it in?
    Miguel
    Mono - C#.
    Trent
    So you wrote Mono in Mono before Mono existed?
    Miguel
    Of course, Mono transcends time.
    Trent
    Oh, I see. So why won't you put the Avahi bindings and our binding documentation on the Mono website?
    Miguel
    Because you smell.
    Trent
    Because I smell? That's a bit offensive. Ah, but I didn't write them, so you know, do you think that snorp smells?
    Miguel
    snorp? snorp is metal. I did not know that snorp wrote them.
    Trent
    But he did, and he asked you to put them on there.
    Miguel
    I must have been having some of the bad crack that day.
    Trent
    It's all bad crack.
    Miguel
    *laughs*
    Trent
    So, it was nice meeting you, but I'd just like to inform you now that I'm a KDE user, and that GNOME sucks.
    Miguel
    DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!

    Pia and RMS (draft) 0189.jpg 0190.wav

    RMS
    Hi, who are you?
    Pia
    My name's Pia Waugh.
    RMS
    And what do you do, Pia Waugh?
    Pia
    I'm Vice President of a group.
    RMS
    And what's the name of that group?
    Pia
    Ooooh, well, the name of that group is Linux Australia.
    RMS
    I see. Have you ever considered perhaps naming the group GNU/Linux Australia?
    Pia
    We had thought about it, but we dismissed that idea because it's a lot of effort, and well, no.
    RMS
    I don't really think I can take a group seriously if they don't refer to themselves by the correct name of GNU/Linux Australia.
    Pia
    I know, as evidenced by the fact you've come to Australia, and you've gone all around Australia and you didn't tell any the user groups that you were going to be here.
    RMS
    Well, I heard that the conference was going to be renamed to the much more funny GNU.conf.au.
    Pia
    GCA? That's not bad, that's actually quite a good one. The only problem is how are we going to put a slash in the domain name to make it work?
    RMS
    It's Free Software, someone will find a way.
    Pia
    *laughs*
    RMS
    So have you read GPL 3 yet?
    Pia
    I have.
    RMS
    What did you think? I ??? thought GPL 3 is my personal, personal vision. It captures the essence of what I think is GNU software.
    Pia
    And what do you think is GNU software?
    RMS
    It's all about Free-dom and LISP and plant nasal sex and Freedom.
    Pia
    Ey, rocking. Well that certainly sounds a lot more interesting. As long as it's plant nasal sex, we're definitely going to rename Linux Australia.
    RMS
    Are you into plant nasal sex?
    Pia
    Absolutely.
    RMS
    Would you like to demonstrate it for us?
    Pia
    Ok. *snort* *whistle* *honk* *ribbit* *ooooh* 2:04-2:08
    RMS
    Thankyou very much for speaking?? You've gotta rename the thing ..